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Complete College Georgia Meeting Minutes


June 26, 2012


NOTE:  At times, issues of confidentiality may require that some items discussed in meetings be excluded from these minutes.

ALC MEMBERS:  Austin Asgill, Tom Ball, Sam Beadles, Richard Bennett, Renee Butler, David Caudill, Lance Crimm, Tom Currin, Venu Dasigi, Ameen Farooq, Pam Frinzi, Alan Gabrielli, Steven Hamrick, Bob Homer, Ruston Hunt, Andrew McMorran, Joyce Mills, Thomas Nelson, Julie Newell, Mark Nunes, Jeff Orr, Nikki Palamiotis, Phil Patterson, Hassan Pournaghshband, Dawn Ramsey, Jeffrey Ray, Nancy Reichert, Han Reichgelt, Ronny Richardson, Becky Rutherfoord, Khalid Siddiqi, George Stickel, Denise Stover, Mark Sugalski, John Sweigart, Zvi Szafran, and Tim Zeigler

MEMBERS ABSENT:   Austin Asgill, Sam Beadles, Richard Bennett, Renee Butler, David Caudill, Lance Crimm, Venu Dasigi, Pam Frinzi, Steven Hamrick, Julie Newell, Dawn Ramsey, Ronny Richardson, George Stickel, Denise Stover, Mark Sugalski, Tim Zeigler



Complete College Georgia Discussion

Dr. Szafran talked about the Complete College report due June 30.  The report will do downtown to review groups who will use a metric to evaluate each report.  The reports will them be returned to each campus for any revisions that may be needed and will then go to the Chancellor and then the Governor.  Dr. Szafran opened the discussion and asked for comments from the Council:

  • Not happy with the pipe drawing – feels it sends a bad message
  • A grade of “D” in Calc I and II is considered success – consider using “D”
  • Some programs require a “C” or better – takes exception to including “D”
  • Nationally, reports use “A” through “C”
  • Consensus of Group was to use "A" through "C"
  • Strategy #2 – Phil has two faculty in his area doing research; Han has one in gaming – add?
  • Hosting of events, summer camps, etc., shouldn’t they be included in Career Awareness?
  • Metric 8 – APA accredits Psychology programs – accredited programs have higher success rates than those who don’t have an accrediting agency reviewing their programs.  If any accrediting bodies are out there we should do it.  Zvi stated we need to look at APA.
  • Look at student research as strategy.  Students doing research increases retention.  Phil will look at where this should go.
  • Add school deans to #10 along with David Stone and Brichaya Shah.
  • #6 has a strong impact on retention but how to measure?  Sarah Holiday is working on getting data.  We should say this is based on success of similar programs since we don’t have data to support it yet.
  • #4 – shouldn’t the VP of Enrollment Services be included as a stakeholder?
  • Registration issues – need better enforcement of academic regulations, i.e. enforcing pre-requisites and limiting the maximum number of hours a student can take
  • #14 – customer service is being done extensively at the school and department levels – Zvi asked Tom to send him a couple of sentences on this.
  • Online orientation for students to include certificate students
  • Does not like the bullet on “associate degree equivalent” on page 4.  Zvi stated that we are not going in this direction
  • Suspects formula funding will shift from enrollment to graduates
  • TCSG articulation, page 7, strategy 3 – objective sounds like students can get a masters after completing only an associates degree.  Zvi has already corrected this to state “bachelors or ultimately masters degree”.
  • At the recent ALC Conference the Senior Vice Chancellor expressed some concerns about the TCSG strategy which is supposed to reduce AS degrees in the USG but the TCSG’s can offer as many AS degrees as they want as long as they have a partner school.  Szafran wanted everyone not to sign any agreements/articulations until all details around this have been worked out downtown.